Generic x58 boards from China

Anyone else see these yet?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EX58-Extreme-Intel-X58-Chipset-Socket-LGA-1366-Socket-B-Motherboard-Mainboard-/191816962556?hash=item2ca92e91fc:g:WqAAAOSwezVW1af1

They obviously aren't very feature rich on the i/o and only have two ram slots and 4 phase power, but if they can overclock and you can negotiate the price down with some of the sellers, it could be a decent option to throw a E5640 in and have a blast. 

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  • Strange to see only 2 RAM slots. Should be at least 3, but it'll work either way. I think it's a bit expensive for what it is. Before you buy try asking for a CPU compatibility list, and a picture of the BIOS. That may give you a glimpse of what you can really do with the board.
  • AaronTheGreatAaronTheGreat Posts: 87
    edited November 2016
    I was thinking about doing a build on the lga1366 platform. While searching for a mobo I also found these. I stayed away because I didn't know if they could overclock and the fact that it was from China also seemed sketchy as this board was generic.(the seller did seem sorta legit) I'd definitely like to see Brian's thoughts on these though. 
  • BryanBryan Posts: 256
    Yeah the VRM looks horridly cheap too.... Any other options out there?
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  • Haven't found any other good options for x58 stuff other than the normal used boards. I wish they weren't so expensive still!

    There is the same style of generic p55 board that has been showing up though. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-P55-Micro-ATX-LGA-1156-Computer-Motherboard-Support-LGA-1156-Socket-H/142168028350?_trksid=p2045573.c100506.m3226&_trkparms=aid=555014&algo=PL.DEFAULT&ao=1&asc=38530&meid=bfd93b06cc82490891702f468eb93623&pid=100506&rk=1&rkt=1&

  • i just bought one of these... i have some ddr3 ecc memory laying around... i didn't even check to see if it would take it. i also have a PS a case and everything else along with a 5570 & a 5650... stay tuned... i'll let you know
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  • RandomRyanRandomRyan Posts: 10
    edited November 2016
    Haven't found any other good options for x58 stuff other than the normal used boards. I wish they weren't so expensive still!

    There is the same style of generic p55 board that has been showing up though. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-P55-Micro-ATX-LGA-1156-Computer-Motherboard-Support-LGA-1156-Socket-H/142168028350?_trksid=p2045573.c100506.m3226&_trkparms=aid=555014&algo=PL.DEFAULT&ao=1&asc=38530&meid=bfd93b06cc82490891702f468eb93623&pid=100506&rk=1&rkt=1&

    That's an intel board. Comes from intel. We're talking no name here. I stand corrected. It isn't.
  • tom91586 said:
    i just bought one of these... i have some ddr3 ecc memory laying around... i didn't even check to see if it would take it. i also have a PS a case and everything else along with a 5570 & a 5650... stay tuned... i'll let you know
    Heck yeah!!! Definitely keep us updated on it!!
  • Haven't found any other good options for x58 stuff other than the normal used boards. I wish they weren't so expensive still!

    There is the same style of generic p55 board that has been showing up though. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-P55-Micro-ATX-LGA-1156-Computer-Motherboard-Support-LGA-1156-Socket-H/142168028350?_trksid=p2045573.c100506.m3226&_trkparms=aid=555014&algo=PL.DEFAULT&ao=1&asc=38530&meid=bfd93b06cc82490891702f468eb93623&pid=100506&rk=1&rkt=1&

    That's an intel board. Comes from intel. We're talking no name here.
    That is not an intel motherboard, it is a no name motherboard. I don't know if it is any good, but I don't think there is such thing as a good LGA 1156 motherboard. You have a hard time getting them because they all have died.
  • tom91586 said:
    i just bought one of these... i have some ddr3 ecc memory laying around... i didn't even check to see if it would take it. i also have a PS a case and everything else along with a 5570 & a 5650... stay tuned... i'll let you know
    Heck yeah!!! Definitely keep us updated on it!!
    shipped today... probably 3 weeks... stay tuned
    Tom
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  • Tech_0neTech_0ne Posts: 289
    Will be interesting to see what these boards are like, according to the specs they top out at 8GB RAM though which is starting to get tight even for gaming. But hey if they can OC a 5650 to ~4ghz they will be a bargain.
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  • BryanBryan Posts: 256
    Yeah I have this gigabyte P55, which boots up, gets the bios screen up and then switches off, trying to figure out what it is, will examine the caps really close tomorrow, but maybe a faulty bios?
    Happy New Year's Everyone, here is to an awesome 2017!
  • Tech_0ne said:
    Will be interesting to see what these boards are like, according to the specs they top out at 8GB RAM though which is starting to get tight even for gaming. But hey if they can OC a 5650 to ~4ghz they will be a bargain.
    i'll let you know... it's on the way

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  • I found those boards quite a while ago (X58 and X79 variants) and while i was doing some research i found russian reviews about them.
    Since i don't speak russian the user "aka13" from overclock.net was so nice and translated it for me:

    http://www.overclock.net/t/1591590/xeon-hacking-and-overclocking-x79-x99-beyond-x58/590#post_25539169

    What you guys will hate to hear:
    "Overclocking is missing, you will not be able to buy cheapest hardware and overclock it."
    Mentioned @6:13 in this video from the Russian Youtuber SRV.:

    In the end of the day they're not worth it. You can get HPTX dual 1366 boards for far less...

    The X79 Variants don't overclock either but they are working with E5-2670s and ECC REG memory so depending on the price they might be worth it.
  • leafflatleafflat Posts: 599
    Bryan said:
    Yeah I have this gigabyte P55, which boots up, gets the bios screen up and then switches off, trying to figure out what it is, will examine the caps really close tomorrow, but maybe a faulty bios?
    Have you tried different Sara port. Or try disabling everything except for usb onboot order then boot from usb. It could be bad sata connections. Same thing happened to me on a Dell t3500. All I had to do was disable the bad sata ports. I don't know if the bios of a P55 has that option though.

    Is this the one you got from Japan?
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  • tom91586 said:
    tom91586 said:
    i just bought one of these... i have some ddr3 ecc memory laying around... i didn't even check to see if it would take it. i also have a PS a case and everything else along with a 5570 & a 5650... stay tuned... i'll let you know
    Heck yeah!!! Definitely keep us updated on it!!
    shipped today... probably 3 weeks... stay tuned
    Awesome! commenting just for the notification  :#


  • Does anyone know how to use these adaptor socket things: http://au.rs-online.com/web/p/products/7198823/?grossPrice=Y&cm_mmc=AU-PLA-_-google-_-PLA_AU_EN_Connectors-_-Ic_Sockets&mkwid=sNsCXIbrx_dc|pcrid|99325693594|pkw||pmt||prd|7198823 I'm thinking of picking one up for me xeon 5640 but I'm not sure what mobos they are compatible with if any as there is no description.
  • dirtboydirtboy Posts: 161
    I don't think that actually does anything  its used for prototyping making a new board from scratch  or complete replacement of the socket
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  •  Not super appealing with no OC options. I mean you can get an OEM Dell, Or HP workstation board for less that will have a proper triple channel setup and what not for about 20 dollars less any day of the week on ebay.
    Hell you can get full hp z400 or dell t3500 systems for about what this is running on a pretty regular basis.
  • Sir_iceeiceSir_iceeice Posts: 136
    edited December 2016
    would going for a i5-3570k @ 4.7Ghz to the X5650 be a good choices? This is just for gaming.
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  • A new one just started popping up. This new one is just a few dollars more than the original one in this thread, has three ram slots, vrm heatsinks, and has two x16 slots that claim to support SLI.... hmmm...

    http://m.ebay.com/itm/Intel-X58-LGA-1366-Socket-B-ATX-Motherboard-Mainboard-with-Crossfire-SLI-/132014330233?hash=item1ebcaad179:g:PT0AAOSwo4pYCnLK&_trkparms=pageci%3Ae9e80988-ba65-11e6-82c9-005056b041c6%7Cparentrq%3Acbab60651580a2a1a1edcd94ffe5acfa%7Ciid%3A6
  • A new one just started popping up. This new one is just a few dollars more than the original one in this thread, has three ram slots, vrm heatsinks, and has two x16 slots that claim to support SLI.... hmmm...

    http://m.ebay.com/itm/Intel-X58-LGA-1366-Socket-B-ATX-Motherboard-Mainboard-with-Crossfire-SLI-/132014330233?hash=item1ebcaad179:g:PT0AAOSwo4pYCnLK&_trkparms=pageci%3Ae9e80988-ba65-11e6-82c9-005056b041c6%7Cparentrq%3Acbab60651580a2a1a1edcd94ffe5acfa%7Ciid%3A6
    Are there any specific information out there on this board? I have a feeling that all these mobo's with intel names are generic. The shipper is from Tampa Florida though not China
  • A new one just started popping up. This new one is just a few dollars more than the original one in this thread, has three ram slots, vrm heatsinks, and has two x16 slots that claim to support SLI.... hmmm...

    http://m.ebay.com/itm/Intel-X58-LGA-1366-Socket-B-ATX-Motherboard-Mainboard-with-Crossfire-SLI-/132014330233?hash=item1ebcaad179:g:PT0AAOSwo4pYCnLK&_trkparms=pageci%3Ae9e80988-ba65-11e6-82c9-005056b041c6%7Cparentrq%3Acbab60651580a2a1a1edcd94ffe5acfa%7Ciid%3A6
    Are there any specific information out there on this board? I have a feeling that all these mobo's with intel names are generic. The shipper is from Tampa Florida though not China
    They aren't saying it's an intel board. X58 is an intel chipset. It's intentionally misleading but that is what that means. So yes 100% it's generic. What I am curious about is if these are being manufactured now or if they are just some cache of old stock. Like how all the xeons turning up now are mostly from a couple of big server banks.
  • Overclocking options for 1366 are few and far between, and very expensive. I did a build where i decided that since OCing was not gonna happen on the cheap, going with the fastest CPU for socket available was. An HP Z400 motherboard with 6 dimms and a xeon w3550 was obtained for $100 shipped, processor swapped to a $70 x5687 (3.6ghz base, 3.9ghz turbo), ram upgraded to 12gb in triple channel, and an 4gb windforce GTX 770 was added. Voila, budget gaming rig that can run anything pretty much (1080p or lower @ 60fps  vsync for best results). The z400 motherboard did need a small/easy mod done with an ATX 24pin PSU extension to create a sort of adapter to make any standard ATX psu work, but it was cheap and easy to do.

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  • If your chip has an unlocked multiplier you can use Intel XTU to overclock it in an OEM system. I've done a similar build with a T3500 and a $100 w3680, which is the xeon equivalent of the i7-980x, and ran it at 3.8ghz on stock voltage.
  • CoalitionGamingCoalitionGaming Posts: 233
    edited December 2016
    If your chip has an unlocked multiplier you can use Intel XTU to overclock it in an OEM system. I've done a similar build with a T3500 and a $100 w3680, which is the xeon equivalent of the i7-980x, and ran it at 3.8ghz on stock voltage.
    What version of XTU? I tried a version of XTU from right before Sandy Bridge support was added, which puts in line with westmere and nehalem, but it gave me no manual control/overclocking options for anything. Was all greyed out.Though this was with an x5687, which i guess is locked. XTU stopped supporting 1366 a while ago as well (thus why i tried an old version).

    Other overclocking options on an OEM board that i haven't fully explored were two applications, one called SetFSB and one called ClockGen. Both require finding the PLL number of the clockspeed generator on the motherboard. Also, TechPowerUp's ThrottleStop program might also work for others (didnt for me though).

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  • I don't recommend this even if its such a low price, the VRM will probably let you get +1MHz, not to mention its only a 4 phase motherboard, 2 ram slots, poor IO port (its like a prebuilt), if your building a system i would recommend going with something different rather than the Extreme series (X38, X58, X79, X99) maybe 1155 which you can find good cheap CPUs and mobos especially (MSI ones going for $40) and maybe a i5 2400/2500/2500k or if you can find a good deal and want a little more horse power a i7 2600/2600k/2700/2700k
  • Tech_0neTech_0ne Posts: 289
    Look for old Dell XPS systems that have failed components, a lot of them carry i7's and boards that can be salvaged.
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  • CHINESE NOCKOFF INTEL X58 EXTREME


    OK, here's the update I promised. 
    the first photo you can see how cheaply the board is. VRMs look like covers that are glued on.... southbridge heatsink was not straight and lose. board overall has a really cheap feel about it.
    WITH THAT SAID... it booted right up...
    and, that's bad... because now we can see what we all thought is true... locked down tighter than Dick's hat band...
    Let me get windows fired up and we'll run Aida on it
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  • tom91586 said:
    CHINESE NOCKOFF INTEL X58 EXTREME


    OK, here's the update I promised. 
    the first photo you can see how cheaply the board is. VRMs look like covers that are glued on.... southbridge heatsink was not straight and lose. board overall has a really cheap feel about it.
    WITH THAT SAID... it booted right up...
    and, that's bad... because now we can see what we all thought is true... locked down tighter than Dick's hat band...
    Let me get windows fired up and we'll run Aida on it
    Keep us posted!
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