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Cheap x58 Motherboards/Help with RAM and GPU

I recently bought a Xeon x5570 for $10 and 2x Kingston KTD-PE313/4G DDR3 1333MHz RAM on Ebay, and I have two questions:

1. Where can I find a cheap (sub-$100 range) x58/LGA 1336 motherboard?
2. Will this Xyratex motherboard fit the Xeon CPU and function properly? I didn't see it on the supported motherboard websites, so I just wanted to make sure, because it seemed like a killer deal (and in case anyone else wanted to find a cheap x58 motherboard, if it works). https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xyratex-0944037-03-Motherboard-Dual-Intel-Socket-LGA-1366-1036-4119-W-Warranty/172853428584?hash=item283ede0168:g:zsoAAOSwUchaFYE3
Or is this all I can do? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-Technology-GA-EX58-UD5-LGA-1366-Socket-B-Intel-Motherboard-Working/322907318184?epid=74085726&hash=item4b2ec6a7a8:g:gCYAAOSwOA1aHA-V
3. Will my RAM work on basically anything that's not proprietary? 
and 
4. Should I get the GTX 1060 3 GB, 1050 Ti, or 1050 2GB? The maximum I want to do is $350.

Thank you!

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  • cheapest way into x58 is a used board, hunting for a low price thru ebay, craigslist (or local equivalent), offerup, letgo, etc. Otherwise, repurposing an HP Z400 will do the trick. Got alot of info here.




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  • Your ram will not work on desktop boards like the gigabyte, only server boards like the xyratex will take ecc registered ram. Now to be honest some selected ecc registered ram will work. But you have to look for 2rx8. Most ecc registered ram are 2rx4.
  • Your ram will not work on desktop boards like the gigabyte, only server boards like the xyratex will take ecc registered ram. Now to be honest some selected ecc registered ram will work. But you have to look for 2rx8. Most ecc registered ram are 2rx4.
    That's not correct. X58 ram controller is on the CPU and not the motherboard chipset so the only factor in using ECC ram or not is if your CPU supports it and all Xeons do. 

    Now the advice is solid for almost all other platforms it just doesn't hold true in this case.

    If you want an overclocking capable motherboard on x58 you are either going to pay a good amount for a known working board through a place that will let you get refunds like ebay. Or you are going to have to take a gamble. Used machines that are "broken" will often have bad ram or dead graphics cards. They can get you boards cheap in this fashion and also often a bunch of other components to sell to recoup money.

    Also what Helgaiden pointed out. Old workstation pcs are plentiful. For a long time the Hp z400 was the way to go. Now for whatever reason the Dell t3500 are cheaper and there is also the IBM thinkcenter I think it's s20 but I might be mistaken. If overclocking isn't a concern for you and it shouldn't be if you are looking at the potential of throwing in either the 1050 or 1050ti than those can be often had very cheaply. 
  • Your ram will not work on desktop boards like the gigabyte, only server boards like the xyratex will take ecc registered ram. Now to be honest some selected ecc registered ram will work. But you have to look for 2rx8. Most ecc registered ram are 2rx4.
    That's not correct. X58 ram controller is on the CPU and not the motherboard chipset so the only factor in using ECC ram or not is if your CPU supports it and all Xeons do. 

    Now the advice is solid for almost all other platforms it just doesn't hold true in this case.

    If you want an overclocking capable motherboard on x58 you are either going to pay a good amount for a known working board through a place that will let you get refunds like ebay. Or you are going to have to take a gamble. Used machines that are "broken" will often have bad ram or dead graphics cards. They can get you boards cheap in this fashion and also often a bunch of other components to sell to recoup money.

    Also what Helgaiden pointed out. Old workstation pcs are plentiful. For a long time the Hp z400 was the way to go. Now for whatever reason the Dell t3500 are cheaper and there is also the IBM thinkcenter I think it's s20 but I might be mistaken. If overclocking isn't a concern for you and it shouldn't be if you are looking at the potential of throwing in either the 1050 or 1050ti than those can be often had very cheaply. 
    You are right in theory, I am right in practice. Go put some ECC ram in your x58 and see how it works out.
  • exturkconnerexturkconner Posts: 445
    edited December 2017
    Your ram will not work on desktop boards like the gigabyte, only server boards like the xyratex will take ecc registered ram. Now to be honest some selected ecc registered ram will work. But you have to look for 2rx8. Most ecc registered ram are 2rx4.
    That's not correct. X58 ram controller is on the CPU and not the motherboard chipset so the only factor in using ECC ram or not is if your CPU supports it and all Xeons do. 

    Now the advice is solid for almost all other platforms it just doesn't hold true in this case.

    If you want an overclocking capable motherboard on x58 you are either going to pay a good amount for a known working board through a place that will let you get refunds like ebay. Or you are going to have to take a gamble. Used machines that are "broken" will often have bad ram or dead graphics cards. They can get you boards cheap in this fashion and also often a bunch of other components to sell to recoup money.

    Also what Helgaiden pointed out. Old workstation pcs are plentiful. For a long time the Hp z400 was the way to go. Now for whatever reason the Dell t3500 are cheaper and there is also the IBM thinkcenter I think it's s20 but I might be mistaken. If overclocking isn't a concern for you and it shouldn't be if you are looking at the potential of throwing in either the 1050 or 1050ti than those can be often had very cheaply. 
    You are right in theory, I am right in practice. Go put some ECC ram in your x58 and see how it works out.
    It 100% does. I've done it with Dell XPS boards I've done it with workstations I've done it with several normal boards. 
    If your board supports the xeon (not all of them do support all of the line) the xeon supports the ECC. Some memory configurations might not work on all the boards but it's not going to be based on it being ECC or not.
  • I was skimming through the posts here, and noticed this thread and I think I can help.

    To answer your first question, will you find a good X58 motherboard for under $100, you might. I paid $108.99 for my Asus Rampage II Gene. You can get X58 boards on eBay, but those are chinese no-name branded motherboards, and tons of people don't like taking the risk. Honestly, since I have parts to build two more X58 systems, I was going to buy those cheap motherboards and see how those worked. Considering they're new and people in China are using them, they can't be all that bad. I've read some pretty good things about their X79 boards, so I'm willing to risk the $80 USD on a X58.

    To answer your second question, will your motherboard support your CPU, definitely. That's a server/workstation motherboard, so I wouldn't question it's CPU compatibility with Xeons. You do get a problem with getting a board THAT big. You'll run into an issue with case compatibility. From the looks of it, it took like it'd only BARELY fit in an EATX case, so I'd recommend going with a smaller board from a good consumer brand.

    To answer the question about your RAM, considering you stick with your original motherboard, your RAM will work in the Xyratec motherboard. Server memory almost always works in a wide range of servers unless specific memory is made for specific server motherboards. Kind of like how some Dell Server motherboards only work with Dell branded or Dell AVL (Approved Vender List) RAM.

    Hmm... The GPU, frankly, I'd recommend a GTX 980. You can get those for around $250-280 USD, and if I'm converting correctly, that lines up with about $320-360 AUD. Not to mention, a GTX 980 still kicks BAD WORD in games and will hand the 1060 3GB it's own BAD WORD on a platter with some better AA. If you ABSOLUTELY want a 10 series card, save up a little more and get the 1060 6GB because the 3GB is just a ripoff at it's current pricing.

    While perusing around on eBay, I found these, in case you want to bid on them.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GeForce-GTX-980-Gaming-Video-Graphics-Card-4GB-GDDR5-X2-Free-shipping/152849699598?hash=item23968d530e:g:Xl8AAOSwFSxaSroT

    Hope this
  • Tech_0neTech_0ne Posts: 319
    Just to chime in here, I have two x58 boards, an Asus P6T SE and an MSI x58 proE, ECC memory works fine in the Asus board (I have 12 GB installed ATM) but it does not work in the MSI board.....Don't know why.

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  • Tech_0ne said:
    Just to chime in here, I have two x58 boards, an Asus P6T SE and an MSI x58 proE, ECC memory works fine in the Asus board (I have 12 GB installed ATM) but it does not work in the MSI board.....Don't know why.
    Check your ecc ram. Is it registered 2rx8 or 2rx4? The latter will not work on P6T.
  • Tech_0neTech_0ne Posts: 319
    I'll have a look when I dig it out next.

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  • ReardenRearden Posts: 3
    I recently bought a Xeon x5570 for $10 and 2x Kingston KTD-PE313/4G DDR3 1333MHz RAM on Ebay, and I have two questions:

    1. Where can I find a cheap (sub-$100 range) x58/LGA 1336 motherboard?
    2. Will this Xyratex motherboard fit the Xeon CPU and function properly? I didn't see it on the supported motherboard websites, so I just wanted to make sure, because it seemed like a killer deal (and in case anyone else wanted to find a cheap x58 motherboard, if it works). https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xyratex-0944037-03-Motherboard-Dual-Intel-Socket-LGA-1366-1036-4119-W-Warranty/172853428584?hash=item283ede0168:g:zsoAAOSwUchaFYE3
    Or is this all I can do? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-Technology-GA-EX58-UD5-LGA-1366-Socket-B-Intel-Motherboard-Working/322907318184?epid=74085726&hash=item4b2ec6a7a8:g:gCYAAOSwOA1aHA-V
    3. Will my RAM work on basically anything that's not proprietary? 
    and 
    4. Should I get the GTX 1060 3 GB, 1050 Ti, or 1050 2GB? The maximum I want to do is $350.

    Thank you!
    Do these boards support overclocking?
  • Rearden said:
    I recently bought a Xeon x5570 for $10 and 2x Kingston KTD-PE313/4G DDR3 1333MHz RAM on Ebay, and I have two questions:

    1. Where can I find a cheap (sub-$100 range) x58/LGA 1336 motherboard?
    2. Will this Xyratex motherboard fit the Xeon CPU and function properly? I didn't see it on the supported motherboard websites, so I just wanted to make sure, because it seemed like a killer deal (and in case anyone else wanted to find a cheap x58 motherboard, if it works). https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xyratex-0944037-03-Motherboard-Dual-Intel-Socket-LGA-1366-1036-4119-W-Warranty/172853428584?hash=item283ede0168:g:zsoAAOSwUchaFYE3
    Or is this all I can do? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-Technology-GA-EX58-UD5-LGA-1366-Socket-B-Intel-Motherboard-Working/322907318184?epid=74085726&hash=item4b2ec6a7a8:g:gCYAAOSwOA1aHA-V
    3. Will my RAM work on basically anything that's not proprietary? 
    and 
    4. Should I get the GTX 1060 3 GB, 1050 Ti, or 1050 2GB? The maximum I want to do is $350.

    Thank you!
    Do these boards support overclocking?

    the gigabyte one does

    Helgaiden
    Rig Specs:
    Codename Red-Beast
    //Xeon E5-1650v2 @ 4.5ghz//EVGA GTX 980ti SC+//16gb G.Skill ARES DDR3 1600//OCZ ModXstream Pro 700w PSU//Asus P9X79e-WS Mobo//Asus vg248qe 144hz 24" 1080p monitor//Deepcool Captain 240EX AIO on CPU//Corsair H55 + Kraken G10 on GPU//Deepcool Dukase v2 mid-tower case//
    _________________________________________
    https://www.youtube.com/user/CoalitionGamesCrew

  • ReardenRearden Posts: 3
    Rearden said:
    I recently bought a Xeon x5570 for $10 and 2x Kingston KTD-PE313/4G DDR3 1333MHz RAM on Ebay, and I have two questions:

    1. Where can I find a cheap (sub-$100 range) x58/LGA 1336 motherboard?
    2. Will this Xyratex motherboard fit the Xeon CPU and function properly? I didn't see it on the supported motherboard websites, so I just wanted to make sure, because it seemed like a killer deal (and in case anyone else wanted to find a cheap x58 motherboard, if it works). https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xyratex-0944037-03-Motherboard-Dual-Intel-Socket-LGA-1366-1036-4119-W-Warranty/172853428584?hash=item283ede0168:g:zsoAAOSwUchaFYE3
    Or is this all I can do? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-Technology-GA-EX58-UD5-LGA-1366-Socket-B-Intel-Motherboard-Working/322907318184?epid=74085726&hash=item4b2ec6a7a8:g:gCYAAOSwOA1aHA-V
    3. Will my RAM work on basically anything that's not proprietary? 
    and 
    4. Should I get the GTX 1060 3 GB, 1050 Ti, or 1050 2GB? The maximum I want to do is $350.

    Thank you!
    Do these boards support overclocking?

    the gigabyte one does
    Thanks. I was hoping the dual cpu one did.
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