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Struggling with x5650 overclock...any help?

So im putting together a low cost system to give as a gift like a starter PC to my fiance's little brother is very much into tech and videogames but never had a gaming PC. Gonna have him build it too, i think it'll be cool. Anyways, i had an EVGA X58 SLI LE board i came across and thats what i decided to go with for this build, and everything i've read about the x5650 was very promising. I only had 4 sticks of ram to spare for a total of 8gb (Super Talent DDR3 1600 1.65v) and its configured to run in dual channel. Spent maybe 3-4 hours last night trying to get an overclock and i couldn't get anything stable worth the life of me, though admittedly im a bit new to BCLK overclocking, especially on x58. Figured out part of my issue was clocking the ram way too high and eventually got it to boot again, but even with vcore at 1.4v, any bclk over 190 wouldn't boot even if the ram was way low at 2:6 (final mhz of 1112 on the ram at that setting). Got it to boot at 185 bclk though but prime fails after a little while, though temps are in check even with a short 10 minute blast of p95 Small FFT. CPU has a 240mm AIO on it. Trying to up the memory frequency closer to 1600mhz ends up causing boot issues of course, so im just not sure what im doing wrong or how to proceed. Or if i lost the silicon lottery big time. Also running into an issue where if the memory is too low, it only recognizes as single channel and windows tells me it has 8gb but only 3.99gb usable (the appears to be hardware reserved). Getting it to boot one setting higher does bring dual channel back, but still says 8gb total but only 3.99gb usable. Its win10 64bit still.

Here is a link to the album of my BIOS progression sorta. The pics from top to bottom go from basically stock default bios settings to what i got to get it to boot.

https://imgur.com/a/PZouR

Any help would be much appreciated. Originally wanted something crazy like 4.4ghz but at this point i'd settle for something modest like 3.8-4.0. I read the guide and plan on attacking this again soon but currently not near my test bench to work on anything and wont be for a while, so i figured i'd put my feelers out there to gather as much info as possible so when i try it again later, i'll be better informed. Crossing fingers. @Bryan i know you love your x58 and Xeons, would be great if you could chime in too!

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  • So decided to load defaults and try stress testing (p95 blend) to see if there was any instability i didnt catch at first, and the only change in BIOS i did was set the memory to 2:8, which BIOS said the target frequency would be 1600mhz. CPUID in windows says its ~667 which is 1333, which i guess is fine for the purpose of this testing at the moment but i notice that the CPU VTT is pretty high in just stock, according to HWmonitor...also manually set the DRAM voltage to 1.650 (the rating of the RAM) and its also reading a tad higher. CPU isnt really breaking 50c in this state, so thats nice. https://imgur.com/a/ReXbJ

    Helgaiden
    Rig Specs:
    Codename Red-Beast
    //Xeon E5-1650v2 @ 4.5ghz//EVGA GTX 980ti SC+//16gb G.Skill ARES DDR3 1600//OCZ ModXstream Pro 700w PSU//Asus P9X79e-WS Mobo//Asus vg248qe 144hz 24" 1080p monitor//Deepcool Captain 240EX AIO on CPU//Corsair H55 + Kraken G10 on GPU//Deepcool Dukase v2 mid-tower case//
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  • CoalitionGamingCoalitionGaming Posts: 283
    edited January 31
    Currently working on isolating the max BCLK and getting WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERROR bsods like crazy at 190 bclk or higher. These are the voltages i was using. HWmonitor reported the CPU VTT at 1.34 with that setting i have it at, and lowering the dimm voltage to 1.5 or even Auto made no difference as well. Eventually it wouldnt post and i had to reset the CMOS, set the voltages, and start at 185 again and am currently inching it back up. 

    https://imgur.com/a/nLu2r


    edit: blah, 187 bclk still got the error. Gonna retest 185 and possibly settle there.

    Helgaiden
    Rig Specs:
    Codename Red-Beast
    //Xeon E5-1650v2 @ 4.5ghz//EVGA GTX 980ti SC+//16gb G.Skill ARES DDR3 1600//OCZ ModXstream Pro 700w PSU//Asus P9X79e-WS Mobo//Asus vg248qe 144hz 24" 1080p monitor//Deepcool Captain 240EX AIO on CPU//Corsair H55 + Kraken G10 on GPU//Deepcool Dukase v2 mid-tower case//
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  • Noticed the BIOS wasn't the most up to date (initially figured since the BIOS recognized the CPU just fine, i didnt need to update), so i decided why not and updated it to the newest. Gave it basically the same settings which was CPU vcore to 1.365 with vdroop, VTT at ~1.35, Dimm voltage at 1.62 with 2:8 divider, IOH vcore at 1.3v, and ICH vcore at 1.2v. Multiplier in BIOS at 20 with Turbo on, and bclk at 183.
     
    CPU-Z says the CPU is at about 4015ghz, RAM is at 1466mhz, but the timings are kinda loose at CL11-tRCD11-tRP11-tRAS29. Yeah, i may need to go in manually since its supposed to be 9-9-9-28 and i think i'll do just that. Yep went in and set it to 9-9-9-28 and 1T.
     
    Im running thru p95 blend now way longer than i previously was though, so definitely happy about that. Time for bed and to leave this running all night.

    Helgaiden
    Rig Specs:
    Codename Red-Beast
    //Xeon E5-1650v2 @ 4.5ghz//EVGA GTX 980ti SC+//16gb G.Skill ARES DDR3 1600//OCZ ModXstream Pro 700w PSU//Asus P9X79e-WS Mobo//Asus vg248qe 144hz 24" 1080p monitor//Deepcool Captain 240EX AIO on CPU//Corsair H55 + Kraken G10 on GPU//Deepcool Dukase v2 mid-tower case//
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  • So i didnt get that much sleep for letting p95 run "all night" lol. 5 hours of blend, got up and had a look and noticed some workers had stopped, so i stopped the entire thing but p95 didn't report any failures or errors so im not sure about that. I feel like the CPU (and VTT and DRAM) is getting plenty of voltage for the OC its at, so im gonna keep going and start downloading games and testing all that stuff. p95 smallFFT seems to pass without issue, at least with the 30 mins of that i ran.

    Helgaiden
    Rig Specs:
    Codename Red-Beast
    //Xeon E5-1650v2 @ 4.5ghz//EVGA GTX 980ti SC+//16gb G.Skill ARES DDR3 1600//OCZ ModXstream Pro 700w PSU//Asus P9X79e-WS Mobo//Asus vg248qe 144hz 24" 1080p monitor//Deepcool Captain 240EX AIO on CPU//Corsair H55 + Kraken G10 on GPU//Deepcool Dukase v2 mid-tower case//
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  • At the moment everything seems stable though i did have to drop the bclk again to 182, but its still at 4ghz. I gave the CPU voltage one more bump and the RAM one more bump (and changed back to 1T) based on a few weird issues i had under normal usage that didnt show up under stress testing (random reboots, display driver bsod when screen goes to sleep and cant wake back up...). Clean reinstalled the display driver but havent had extended time to test, a weird issue i was having was that occasionally after a reboot, the PC would load windows and the resolution would be reset, screen flickers, and resolution corrects itself as the display driver apparently reinstalls itself (yellow exclamation in device manager, screen blinks, then everything is back to normal). Not sure what to make of that. The last time it did that was before i made the above mentioned voltage adjustments and clean display driver reinstall, then i set it to run Valley and went to bed. Got up, valley still running without issues so...thats good i guess.

    Helgaiden
    Rig Specs:
    Codename Red-Beast
    //Xeon E5-1650v2 @ 4.5ghz//EVGA GTX 980ti SC+//16gb G.Skill ARES DDR3 1600//OCZ ModXstream Pro 700w PSU//Asus P9X79e-WS Mobo//Asus vg248qe 144hz 24" 1080p monitor//Deepcool Captain 240EX AIO on CPU//Corsair H55 + Kraken G10 on GPU//Deepcool Dukase v2 mid-tower case//
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  • changed back to 2T***

    Helgaiden
    Rig Specs:
    Codename Red-Beast
    //Xeon E5-1650v2 @ 4.5ghz//EVGA GTX 980ti SC+//16gb G.Skill ARES DDR3 1600//OCZ ModXstream Pro 700w PSU//Asus P9X79e-WS Mobo//Asus vg248qe 144hz 24" 1080p monitor//Deepcool Captain 240EX AIO on CPU//Corsair H55 + Kraken G10 on GPU//Deepcool Dukase v2 mid-tower case//
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  • Sir_iceeiceSir_iceeice Posts: 173
    edited February 1
    Here 3 Tech Yes City Video that have him OC X58 motherboard. first one give the most amount of info. hope this help you.
    1) 10 min 24 second
    2)  4 min 37 second
    3)  5 min 9 second
    Motherboard : ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 (8 + 4 Power Phase Design)
    CPU: Intel i5-3570k at 4.7GHz  1.32v
    CPU Cooler: DEEPCOOL Gamer Storm CAPTAIN 240
    Ram: V-Color OC Series 16GB (4x4GB) 2133Mhz 10-11-11-30-1T at 1.550v
    Storage:  ADATA Premier SP550 2.5" 480GB and 2Tb 3.5" Seagate
    Graphic Card: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 960 4GB G1 GAMING OC EDITION
    Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 550 GS
    Mouse: MSI Interceptor
    Keyboard: Corsair K70 Vengeance Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Cherry MX Red
    Monitors : 3x AOC 22" 1080p, 1x Dell 1080p Monitor

  • Oh cool, a response lol. Thanks. Im starting to realize the binning on these x5650s is all over the place and some can do way better than others, and even some motherboards can BCLK OC better than others too. Its a double whammy of variability (well more than usual). That Biostar board in the first vid was nice though.

    Helgaiden
    Rig Specs:
    Codename Red-Beast
    //Xeon E5-1650v2 @ 4.5ghz//EVGA GTX 980ti SC+//16gb G.Skill ARES DDR3 1600//OCZ ModXstream Pro 700w PSU//Asus P9X79e-WS Mobo//Asus vg248qe 144hz 24" 1080p monitor//Deepcool Captain 240EX AIO on CPU//Corsair H55 + Kraken G10 on GPU//Deepcool Dukase v2 mid-tower case//
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