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New Budget PC Build

I have never actually built a PC before, so I was wondering if you could put together a decent budget PC? My budget is about $300 (US), though I could stretch it a bit if needed. Used parts are fine as well. 

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  • Sir_iceeiceSir_iceeice Posts: 173
    edited February 7
    Go on Craigslist find a good Desktop PC then add a GPU
    1. Skip LGA 775
    2. Only get LGA 1156 if you can OC it
    3. Avoided the slim case
    Motherboard : ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 (8 + 4 Power Phase Design)
    CPU: Intel i5-3570k at 4.7GHz  1.32v
    CPU Cooler: DEEPCOOL Gamer Storm CAPTAIN 240
    Ram: V-Color OC Series 16GB (4x4GB) 2133Mhz 10-11-11-30-1T at 1.550v
    Storage:  ADATA Premier SP550 2.5" 480GB and 2Tb 3.5" Seagate
    Graphic Card: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 960 4GB G1 GAMING OC EDITION
    Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 550 GS
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  • Why should I avoid LGA 1156?
  • Sir_iceeiceSir_iceeice Posts: 173
    Why should I avoid LGA 1156?
    You should avoid LGA 775, LGA 1156 you need to overclock it to get the most out of it.
    Motherboard : ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 (8 + 4 Power Phase Design)
    CPU: Intel i5-3570k at 4.7GHz  1.32v
    CPU Cooler: DEEPCOOL Gamer Storm CAPTAIN 240
    Ram: V-Color OC Series 16GB (4x4GB) 2133Mhz 10-11-11-30-1T at 1.550v
    Storage:  ADATA Premier SP550 2.5" 480GB and 2Tb 3.5" Seagate
    Graphic Card: GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 960 4GB G1 GAMING OC EDITION
    Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 550 GS
    Mouse: MSI Interceptor
    Keyboard: Corsair K70 Vengeance Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Cherry MX Red
    Monitors : 3x AOC 22" 1080p, 1x Dell 1080p Monitor

  • I found a used PC for $250

    12gb dual channel ddr3 798MHz
    intel core i5 4440 @ 3.10GHz
    HDD 1TB
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 635 2047MB(2GB?)
    Windows 10 Home

    Think it's a good deal?
  • FunPosterFunPoster Posts: 22
    Everything there is fine except for the GPU, which is horrendous. You'd be left with $50 to spend on a GPU, which probably isn't enough to get anything half decent (like an HD 7870 or GTX 660) unless you scooped up an amazing deal. You could maybe try to lowball the guy, though, to give you more breathing space when it comes to the GPU.

    A pretty common tactic is to look for used Dell Optiplex towers (I believe the 990 is the one you want?), or really any sort of used home/office PC with a Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge processor and no GPU, since LGA 1155 is still modern enough to have USB 3.0 as standard, and then just throw a good GPU in there and maybe replace the power supply if needed. This gives you what is probably the easiest "plug and play" approach, beyond actually just purchasing a used gaming PC, since you won;t have to do any overclocking.

    On ebay, you can purchase a used Optiplex with 8GB RAM and an i5 2500 for $119US. This leaves you with $180 to purchase a bigger power supply (Dell uses standard connectors, so it's no issue, and yes you will absolutely need one), a bigger hard drive or maybe even an SSD, and a pretty beefy GPU like a GTX 780. Let's itemize this just using ebay listings since I can;t look at your local craigslist.

    Dell Optiplex 990 Full tower, $119 - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-990-MT-Core-i5-2500-8GB-320gb-Windows-7-Home-Premium-64-COA/112783666918?_trkparms=aid=555019&algo=PL.BANDIT&ao=1&asc=20150817211623&meid=d5758fbccd3545fdb76731777715b2aa&pid=100505&rk=1&rkt=1&&itm=112783666918&_trksid=p2045573.c100505.m3226

    BRAND NEW 600w Bronze rated EVGA power supply, $40 - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438014&cm_re=power_supply_evga-_-17-438-014-_-Product

    GTX 780, $120 - https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-GV-N78TOC-3GD-NVIDIA-GTX-780-VIDEO-CARD-3GB-GDDR5/183061795814?hash=item2a9f5553e6:g:ic8AAOSwBwdae6Dx

    That comes out to $279US, leaving you with an extra $20 to pick up a second hard drive or maybe even a used SSD if you can find one for cheap, and do note, THESE ARE NOT THE BEST DEALS or even good ones. I linked a brand new PSU, for instance. Most likely, if you search properly in your locale, you'll be able to find stuff for cheaper. That GTX 780 I linked is really sketchy, but I was able to pick one up in Sydney that I knew was actually working for the equivalent of $125US. Really, go watch some of Bryan's videos and look at the kind of builds that he puts together. Then, search for the correct keywords to see what comes up, and lowball the shit out of what people are asking for their hardware, since they will always overprice it.
    CPU - R7 1700 @ 3.9GHz | Motherboard- Asus Crosshair VI Hero | RAM - G.Skill Trident Z 16GB 3200MHz | GPU - Asus GTX 1080 Strix | Case - Fractal Define R5 | Boot Drive - Samsung 500GB 850 Evo | Storage - Mushkin Reaktor 1TB, HGST Deskstar 4TB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB  | PSU - Seasonic x-750 750W | Display - Asus PB258Q 25" 1440p |  Cooling - Noctua NH-D15

  • Thanks a lot for the help! Do you know about how well a build like that would perform in something like fortnite or over watch? Thanks!
  • Overwatch*
  • FunPoster said:
    Everything there is fine except for the GPU, which is horrendous. You'd be left with $50 to spend on a GPU, which probably isn't enough to get anything half decent (like an HD 7870 or GTX 660) unless you scooped up an amazing deal. You could maybe try to lowball the guy, though, to give you more breathing space when it comes to the GPU.

    A pretty common tactic is to look for used Dell Optiplex towers (I believe the 990 is the one you want?), or really any sort of used home/office PC with a Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge processor and no GPU, since LGA 1155 is still modern enough to have USB 3.0 as standard, and then just throw a good GPU in there and maybe replace the power supply if needed. This gives you what is probably the easiest "plug and play" approach, beyond actually just purchasing a used gaming PC, since you won;t have to do any overclocking.

    On ebay, you can purchase a used Optiplex with 8GB RAM and an i5 2500 for $119US. This leaves you with $180 to purchase a bigger power supply (Dell uses standard connectors, so it's no issue, and yes you will absolutely need one), a bigger hard drive or maybe even an SSD, and a pretty beefy GPU like a GTX 780. Let's itemize this just using ebay listings since I can;t look at your local craigslist.

    Dell Optiplex 990 Full tower, $119 - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-990-MT-Core-i5-2500-8GB-320gb-Windows-7-Home-Premium-64-COA/112783666918?_trkparms=aid=555019&algo=PL.BANDIT&ao=1&asc=20150817211623&meid=d5758fbccd3545fdb76731777715b2aa&pid=100505&rk=1&rkt=1&&itm=112783666918&_trksid=p2045573.c100505.m3226

    BRAND NEW 600w Bronze rated EVGA power supply, $40 - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438014&cm_re=power_supply_evga-_-17-438-014-_-Product

    GTX 780, $120 - https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-GV-N78TOC-3GD-NVIDIA-GTX-780-VIDEO-CARD-3GB-GDDR5/183061795814?hash=item2a9f5553e6:g:ic8AAOSwBwdae6Dx

    That comes out to $279US, leaving you with an extra $20 to pick up a second hard drive or maybe even a used SSD if you can find one for cheap, and do note, THESE ARE NOT THE BEST DEALS or even good ones. I linked a brand new PSU, for instance. Most likely, if you search properly in your locale, you'll be able to find stuff for cheaper. That GTX 780 I linked is really sketchy, but I was able to pick one up in Sydney that I knew was actually working for the equivalent of $125US. Really, go watch some of Bryan's videos and look at the kind of builds that he puts together. Then, search for the correct keywords to see what comes up, and lowball the shit out of what people are asking for their hardware, since they will always overprice it.
    That power supply is pretty terrible for the price. It's a group regulated older model unit, and you can pick up this for the same price: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B72W0A2/?tag=pcpapi-20
    Which is much better, in terms of cable managements, aesthetics and electrical performance.
  • If you read the price I posted along with the link, you would realise it was $40 at the time, hence why I bothered posting it at all.
    CPU - R7 1700 @ 3.9GHz | Motherboard- Asus Crosshair VI Hero | RAM - G.Skill Trident Z 16GB 3200MHz | GPU - Asus GTX 1080 Strix | Case - Fractal Define R5 | Boot Drive - Samsung 500GB 850 Evo | Storage - Mushkin Reaktor 1TB, HGST Deskstar 4TB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB  | PSU - Seasonic x-750 750W | Display - Asus PB258Q 25" 1440p |  Cooling - Noctua NH-D15

  • FunPoster said:
    If you read the price I posted along with the link, you would realise it was $40 at the time, hence why I bothered posting it at all.
    Fine. Last week, CX550 for $35.
    Same platform, just non-modular. Still better cables and performance.
  • Then I would recommend the CX550. This seems like a pointless attempt at cock-waving. Get a decently rated unit if it's on sale or look for used parts in your area.
    CPU - R7 1700 @ 3.9GHz | Motherboard- Asus Crosshair VI Hero | RAM - G.Skill Trident Z 16GB 3200MHz | GPU - Asus GTX 1080 Strix | Case - Fractal Define R5 | Boot Drive - Samsung 500GB 850 Evo | Storage - Mushkin Reaktor 1TB, HGST Deskstar 4TB, Seagate Barracuda 1TB  | PSU - Seasonic x-750 750W | Display - Asus PB258Q 25" 1440p |  Cooling - Noctua NH-D15

  • DanielZhanDanielZhan Posts: 2
    edited February 12
    Buizel10 said:
    FunPoster said:
    If you read the price I posted along with the link, you would realise it was $40 at the time, hence why I bothered posting it at all.
    Fine. Last week, CX550 for $35.
    Same platform, just non-modular. Still better cables and performance.
    FunPoster said:
    Then I would recommend the CX550. This seems like a pointless attempt at cock-waving. Get a decently rated unit if it's on sale or look for used parts in your area.
    CX is much better as long as its grey unit
  • Buizel10 said:
    FunPoster said:
    If you read the price I posted along with the link, you would realise it was $40 at the time, hence why I bothered posting it at all.
    Fine. Last week, CX550 for $35.
    Same platform, just non-modular. Still better cables and performance.
    FunPoster said:
    Then I would recommend the CX550. This seems like a pointless attempt at cock-waving. Get a decently rated unit if it's on sale or look for used parts in your area.
    CX is much better as long as its grey unit
    The Seasonic M12 ii full modular 620w or 520w units for those prices or less (when not on sale) is superior to both, especially the CX. If you're looking at power supplies under $60 and want the absolute best bang for your buck in terms of features and quality...this is the only choice.
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817151095


    To the OP, check this out. You might want a better GPU though, and the budget mentioned here leaves $100 for you. For a different budget build im working on based on an HP Z400 (which i scored for $100 with 8gb ram, even), i managed to get a 4gb GTX 960 for $100. You should be able to find GTX 680s and 770s for $100 or less, which will slightly outperform the 960 too.




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  • Tech_0neTech_0ne Posts: 319
    edited March 9
    If you can get a cheap pentium g3258 and a cheap H81 mobo that's where I would start. GREAT overclocking for the pentium and a very good upgrade path (though  not to K series i7 or i5 CPUS but the stock non-K Haswells are pretty good)

    HD7870 gpu with 2GB vram, still performs pretty well (were cheap as chips last year but the mining boom killed it) if you see a 7850 cheaper still worth it. GTX760, GTX750ti.  HD6870's still do the job on lower resolutions (tho is only 1GB Vram, don't pay much for one) GTX 580 but they are hot and need a lot of power and still only 1.5GB vRAM (I think they made a 3GB model if you can get one, pretty rare though)

    I can actually (sort of) recommend the CIT 550w PSU, it has around 40 amps on the 12 volt rail and comes with 2 x 6+2 pin PCIe connectors, I ran  GTX 580 on it for a while and a HD7870 on it for a while with no issues...New these were about £25-30 and a decent bargain.  Most of the other CiT PSU's were junk. I have the 550w and the 750w CiT PSU's on ebay right now, don't touch the 750 watt it's junk (22 amps on the 12v rail and 1 6pin pcie lol) if you or anyone else on here wants the 550w let me know you can have it free just pay the  postage price https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253478489957?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

    Get 2 x 250GB HDD's and raid0 them, never gonna be like a SSD but better than a single drive.

    Ram is probably gonna be reasonably expensive...If you get a cheap board with 2 ram slots you'll need 2x4GB dimms.....More expensive boards will have 4 dimm slots so you can get 4x2GB dimms but you're paying more for the board.....Kinda a catch 22.

    You could always go 1366 and get a e5640, clock it to 4+ghz and get one of the GPU's listed above....But that's your upgrade path done unless you go for a hex core which has little impact on Gaming in my experience. And the mobo's are expensive, though they have have 6 slots so 12GB ram is cheaply achievable, especially if you get a board that supports ECC memory. 2GB ECC sticks are cheap.

    Just my two worthless pennies of an opinion, don't take it as anything else :)








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  • I have 4gb of dd3 ram (2 2gb sticks). If I buy another 4gb, would that take care of ram? I already have a 750 gb hard drive that should work for a bit, as well as Windows 7 pro 64 bit that are from my old pc. 
  • Tech_0neTech_0ne Posts: 319
    8GB of ram will be fine for gaming,  like I said it depends if the motherboard  has 2 or 4 dimm slots. If it only has 2 you'll need 2 x 4gb sticks, if it has 4 then 4 x 2GB sticks will work just as well.

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  • I found an Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 for $140 US. Good deal?
  • I was thinking of just using the motherboard from my old pc (https://www.amazon.com/Compaq-Elite-Factor-Motherboard-536884-001/dp/B01INPKFDK). I have 4gb's of ram in it now. If I add another 4gb of ram, add in a graphics card, upgrade the psu, and upgrade the cpu to a 4 core; will that work for a decent gaming pc?
  • ckai93ckai93 Posts: 6
    I was thinking of just using the motherboard from my old pc (https://www.amazon.com/Compaq-Elite-Factor-Motherboard-536884-001/dp/B01INPKFDK). I have 4gb's of ram in it now. If I add another 4gb of ram, add in a graphics card, upgrade the psu, and upgrade the cpu to a 4 core; will that work for a decent gaming pc?
    a few things to look out when upgrading an oem prebuilt.

    correct me if i'm wrong, don't HP prebuilt use their own proprietary psu connectors?
    if yes, then you're out of luck. it won't be easy upgrading the psu to start with.

    next is for the lga775 platform your upgrade path will like be going on to xeon cpu, like probably the x5460 or so. if you're going to oc it, will your existing cooling solution be sufficient? if no, is the motherboard cpu cooling solution proprietary as well? (i.e. can it fit normal aftermarket cooling solutions)
  • Yeah, just realized the connector difference last week. So since that's out, I'm mostly just looking at used pc's or motherboards.
  • CoalitionGamingCoalitionGaming Posts: 277
    I found an Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 for $140 US. Good deal?
    Id say no, not really. I got a 4gb GTX 960 for $100 back in March, and just last week i got a 2gb GTX 960 for $70. I'd say the best value for a 960 is in the $80-$110 range MAX. And at the higher end, it better be 4gb too. 

    Another solution for you is to find a cheap used HP Z400 system. With or without RAM (its cheap), with or without a CPU. It has a 475w power supply so something like a GTX 960, 1050, 1050ti, or even 1060 (with the right power adapters if it needs more than a single 6-pin) is doable with it. Great Xeons 4 core and 6 core Xeons are cheap for it (the w3670 and X5680 being the most cost effective 6 cores with decent speed but the X5687 being the fastest quad core with a 3.6ghz base, 3.86ghz turbo). 12gb DDR3 1066 kits for triple channel are on ebay for around $20. It doesn't take much to make a Z400 system gaming worthy.

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